Showing posts with label Lee Harvey Oswald. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Lee Harvey Oswald. Show all posts

Wednesday 28 January 2015

JFK assassination Lee Harvey Oswald's mother was right

The Realist ran for over 40 years. It was very biting satire and had some extremely talented contributions. No holds barred. It was at times funded by John Lennon, yet another murdered by a "lone nut" at the beginning of Reagan/BUSH.
We all thought of Lee Oswald's mother as a nut who was a terrible mother back in the 60's. It didn't help that she wasn't very photogenic, unlike Jackie or Marina or even Tippit's wife. Turns out she was right on. This is an interview that must have been conducted just 1 or 2 months after John Kennedy was murdered.
Note the postcard shown on the next page before the magic bullet was dreamed up.
ps It's all indexed, unlike the WR!
SEPTEMBER 1964 CONTENTS: Page 01Page 02Page 03Page 04Page 05Page 06Page 07Page 08Page 09Page 10Page 11Page 12Page 13Page 14Page 15Page 16Page 17Page 18Page 19Page 20Page 21Page 22Page 23Back Cover
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Thursday 4 December 2014

Biography Judyth Baker note, it was Chess pieces?

BIOGRAPHY

3 December 2014 at 13:34The Chess Piece game they play....http://www.pinterest.com/pin/508203139175843332/
     THIS LEW ROCKWELL INTERVIEW GIVES AN ACCURATE PICTURE OF JUDYTH'S LIFE (if you wish to share it with others!)

JUDYTH VARY BAKER Judyth Vary Baker (1943– ) born South Bend, Indiana, is an American artist, writer and poet. Her work in cancer research as a teen and young adult led to later involvement in a biological warfare project aimed to eliminate Cuba's Fidel Castro.  In 1963, her decision to protest the use of unwitting prisoners for a dangerous cancer experiment destroyed her cancer research career. Baker's intimate relationship with accused Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, who Baker and others say was involved in the anti-Castro effort, and was framed in a cover-up, has become the subject of documentaries, plays and books since she first spoke out to Sixty Minutes in 1999. Her book Me & Lee: How I came to know, love and lose Lee Harvey Oswald (2010) argues the innocence of Oswald, providing witnesses to Baker's affair with Oswald and documentation of their relationship, which began in New Orleans in April, 1963 and continued until Oswald's last call only two days before the assassination of President Kennedy.<p>Baker's published poetry includes A Dangerous Thing to Do, When the Clouds came Flying By (children's poems) and individual works. Her paintings, lithographs and computer art are sold worldwide. Due to harassment, threats and hospitalizations due to incidents before and after the History Channel's documentary on her relationship with Oswald (2003: "The Love Affair" Episode 8 in the A & E series The Men Who Killed Kennedy) Baker began living a secluded life in exile in Europe.</p><p>A play by playwright Lisa Soland, "The Sniper's Nest" was produced in 2012 featuring Judyth and Lee's relationship. Soland had previously planned to write the play with Oswald as guilty, but after reading Me & Lee, she presented Lee as innocent.</p><p> </p><p>EARLY LIFE</p><p>Judyth was the oldest child of Donald and Gloria Vary in South Bend, Indiana, on May 15, 1943. She was seriously ill as a young child and was hospitalized for over a year with complications from a ruptured appendix and gangrene. The event gave her a deep interest in science and medicine. She attended St. Mary's School in Niles Michigan, Southside Jr. High School in St. Petersburg, Florida, and Manatee High School in Bradenton, Florida. The Hungarian side of her family heavily influenced Baker with patriotic values due to their strong feelings for relatives who fought in the 1956 Hungarian revolution.</p><p>Baker's father, an electrical engineer, and her large extended family recognized the child's genius and encouraged her to develop skills in science and art after Baker spontaneously began to read a telephone book before age three. Baker's excellent memory, creativity and artistic talents meant that by age 8 she was quoting Shakespeare and Jane Austen, keeping the family's financial records, designing ads for her father's TV stores, and singing duets with her younger sister, Lynda, on their father's television station. By the time Baker was 10, she had learned how to put together radios and TV sets. When Baker was introduced to Robert Adler, a TV pioneer in the field, for whom her father worked from time to time in Chicago, she decided she wanted to become a scientist. When her beloved Hungarian grandmother, Anna Hoffer Whiting, passed away from cancer in 1956, Baker was determined to become a cancer research scientist.</p><p> </p><p>BEGINS CANCER RESEARCH EFFORTS</p><p>In Bradenton, Florida, Baker was befriended by Georgianna Watkins, leader of the area's American Cancer Society, who guided her earliest research projects with cancerous fish. Watkins also introduced her to Dr. Alton Ochsner, former President of the American Cancer Society, at the dedication of the Wilson Clinic near Sun City, Florida, who encouraged her efforts.</p><p>On October 17, 1958, Baker was introduced by her biology teacher to Dr. Canute Michaelson, a high-ranking Norwegian geneticist and radiobiologist with CIA ties who had served as a double agent against Hitler. Michaelson's exploits as a spy fascinated her. After Baker expressed her desire to become a cancer research scientist, Michaelson provided Baker with equipment and contacts. Two local doctors, who soon after would begin studying radiation and cancer at Oak Ridge, under the eye of the CIA, next began advising Baker in the early stages of her research.</p><p>Baker's patriotic zeal was further enhanced in high school by friendships with retired military officers, especially her science and physics instructor, Col. Phillip V. Doyle, and by local anti-Castro Cubans, including a close friendship with fellow student Tony Lopez-Fresquet, the oldest son of Castro's first finance minister, Rufo Lopez-Fresquet. After gaining national attention in science fairs for her improvement on a German method to extract magnesium from seawater, she obtained additional support for her work in cancer from Dr. David Jacobus and others at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research. Baker was sent hard-to-get anti-radioactive steroids and instructions on how to use them in her experiments.</p><p>Baker's need to use cancerous mice for her anti-cancer experiments prompted her to try to induce cancer in mice as fast as possible. By 1961, Baker, aided by famed Tampa, FL bacteriologist James A. Reyniers, induced lung cancer in weanling mice in record time under primitive lab conditions. Baker was now collecting scholarships and awards, including a placement in the Westinghouse Science Talent Search, and was becoming known across the country as a young prodigy in cancer research.</p><p>In March 1961, at age 17, she became the first high school student to attend the elite Science Writer's Cancer Research Seminar, a 5-day national meeting of science writers and the world's most important cancer research scientists, where her research was inspected by top American Cancer Society (ACS) officials, research scientists, and Nobel Prize winners Dr. Harold Urey and Sir Robert Robinson, who began to mentor her work.</p><p>At that time, Baker also met and was befriended by the three doctors credited today with wakening the world to the dangers of smoking: Dr. Harold Diehl (Sr. Vice President of Research for the American Cancer Society), Dr. George Moore (Director of Roswell Park Institute, the first hospital to ban smoking) and Dr. Alton Ochsner (founder of the famed Ochsner Clinic in New Orleans). All three doctors had testified together in lawsuits against the tobacco industry: the fact that Baker had induced lung cancer in mice in record time using concentrated tobacco smoke focused their attention on her work.</p><p> </p><p>ROSWELL PARK CANCER INSTITUTE</p><p>After Dr. Urey and the doctors examined her lab and records in her high school laboratory, Dr. George Moore invited Baker to spend the summer of 1961 in Moore's own private laboratory at Roswell Park, in Buffalo, New York, the oldest important cancer research center in the United States. There she conducted research on melanoma cancers, learned techniques for handling cancers induced by the Friend virus and the SV40 monkey virus, and helped develop a predecessor of what would become a world-famed RPMI formula for growing cancerous tissues in vitro. For most of that summer Baker also studied radiobiology with Dr. James T. Grace, handling cancer-causing viruses, including the SV40 Monkey virus, as a participant in Roswell Park's national program for science students, then under the direction of Dr. Edwin Mirand.</p><p>That same year, Dr. Ochsner, whose anti-communist views were widely known, used funding from right-wing oil baron Clint Murchison and others to establish the Information Council of the Americas (INCA) with Ed Butler as Executive Director. The main objective of the organization was to prevent communist revolutions in Latin America.</p><p>By Fall of 1961, Baker was enrolled in the medical technology program at St. Francis College (now St. Francis University) in her home state of Indiana, using a nearby hospital for her more advanced lab work. Assigned to enhance the growth rate of malignant melanoma (at Dr. Alton Ochsner's suggestion, as reported in Baker's local newspapers) the 18-year-old's new research project was well established in only two months.</p><p>Baker immediately presented information about her new project to the Indiana Academy of Science, where an abstract of her research was published, titled "Studies on the Increase in vitro of Mitotic Activity and Melanogenesis in the RPMI HA # 5 (7113) Strain Melano." the abstract mentions that her cancer research was continuing at her lab at St. Francis.</p><p>Concurrently, Dr. Alton Ochsner's work in 1961-1962 on melanoma was important enough to be recorded in his official biography: Baker says Ochsner continued to direct her work in melanoma research and encouraged her research in lung cancer, which was Ochsner's specialty.</p>Then things changed dramatically.
After nearly two years of training at Roswell Park Institute, in laboratories in Indiana, and at the University of Florida, Dr. Ochsner invited Judyth to work with noted cancer specialist Dr. Mary S. Sherman in New Orleans. After this 'summer internship' she was promised early entry into Tulane Medical School.  However, she was steered into a biological warfare project aimed to eliminate Cuba's Fidel Castro, directed by Ochsner, whose organization, INCA, was famed for its anti-communist zeal. Author Edward T. Haslam has linked a linear particle accelerator that Baker said was involved in the project to Drs. Ochsner and Sherman, through a detailed study of Dr. Sherman's brutal, unsolved murder on July 21, 1964, the day the Warren Commission came to New Orleans to obtain testimonies. During this same time period, Baker met and fell in love with Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin of President John F. Kennedy. Witnesses and a mass of documentation support Judyth's efforts in what she describes as a crusade  "to clear Oswald's name of a crime he didn't commit, and to reveal the cancer treatment industry's crimes. They could have cured cancer decades ago--but that would have ruined their cash cow."  Due to death threats as a whistler-blower, Judyth is forced to live overseas, though she returns periodically to continue her crusade. "Everything you've been told about Lee Oswald by the government is false," she states. "Lee actually saved Kennedy's life in Chicago. The full truth is in my book Me & Lee, which has become an underground best seller." A History Channel documentary "The Love Affair" (2003) is available on YouTube.  Me & Lee: How I came to know, love and lose Lee Harvey Oswald (Trine day, 2010),  and Judyth's new book, David Ferrie: Mafia Pilot (Trine day, 2014), along with her many appearances on TV, radio and Internet have created a following of supporters who, she says "now understand how they've been lied to by the government--and they want justice for John F. Kennedy, for Lee Oswald, and for those who suffer from cancer.  I want everybody to know that the government weaponized cancer back in 1963, that the government has patented cures for cancer--but cancer treatment is such a profitable industry that a cure for cancer is always last in line for funding."  She states that Oswald was working for the FBI, and had been loaned to the CIA from the Office of Naval Intelligence, to keep watch over the cancer project "that was being developed to kill Castro, whose death by a weaponized form of lung cancer could be called a 'death by natural causes' --because previous methods tried by the CIA had all failed." Oswald's job was to identify pro-Castro spies in New Orleans, and his "pro-Castro activities,"  Judyth says, "were to make him look like a harmless pro-Castro fool."  Judyth joins former Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden in confirming that Oswald was the informant named "Lee" who saved Kennedy's life in Chicago three weeks prior to the assassination. "I spoke of Lee's attempts to save JFK a decade before Abraham's story reached the public,"

In 2003, Judyth was filmed saying Oswald called the operation to kill Kennedy "The Big Event," several years prior to CIA's E. Howard Hunt identifying the CIA operation to kill Kennedy by the same name. For a number of such reasons, Judyth's claims are being more widely supported than when she first spoke out, except by those defending the Warren Commission's conclusions, which Baker calls "an obsolete failure and an odious obstruction of justice for both Kennedy and Oswald."

Judyth says she was ejected from the project to kill Castro because of her ethical objections to use one or more prisoners who had volunteered to test the deadly, SV-40 derived cancer bio-weapon. "They wouldn't have volunteered to be tested for something that would kill them, if it was successful," she states.  After she was forced to return to Florida, Judyth was placed in a high-end chemistry laboratory, Peninsular ChemResearch, to temporarily hide her being "blackballed" from cancer research. She was then forced to leave the field altogether. Judyth says she and Oswald kept in touch after her return to Florida, and that they planned to divorce (both had unhappy marriages), but first, Oswald had to deliver the material, after it was successfully tested, to a contact in Mexico City. When the contact failed to show, Oswald suspected that he had been lured to Mexico City. Bitter over being banned from cancer research, and their plans to marry delayed when Oswald was ordered back to Dallas, Judyth was devastated when she saw Oswald shot on live TV. Judyth says Oswald was part of an "abort team" that he described to her only 37 ½ hours before the Kennedy assassination. When Baker told researcher Jim Marrs about the "abort team" in late 1999 or early 2000, at this time only a handful of insiders knew of its existence.

 In 2000 Baker was nearly filmed three times by Sixty Minutes in a 14-month investigation that Sixty Minutes' founder, Don Hewitt, said was the most expensive investigation in the history of the program at that time. He stated to C-Span that "the door was slammed in our faces." But then Gerry Hemming, a legendary name in Kennedy assassination research, met Judyth, who gave him "insider information" that impressed him so much that he asked British documentary maker Nigel Turner to film her. "The Love Affair" [Episode 8: "The Men Who Killed Kennedy"] was aired by The History Channel in Nov. 2003, but none of Baker's living witnesses were included. Episode 9 ["The Guilty Men"] quickly generated lawsuit threats from former Pres. Lyndon Johnson's widow, and two former Presidents: all three new episodes [7-8-9] were quickly banned, and The History Channel apologized to the Johnsons. Over the next few years, all of the other segments of The Men Who Killed Kennedy filmed by Turner, aired for over a decade on the History Channel, were also removed. "Mr. Turner has now vanished," Judyth said. "He's obviously been told to shut up. This happens to many brave souls who dare reveal the truth."

In 2012, a 3-act play by noted playwright Lisa Soland ["The Sniper's Nest"], based on Me & Lee, began production in the United States and overseas. In 2014, Me & Lee was issued as an audiobook. Judyth, who has lived mostly overseas since 2003 due to death threats, has been hosted by supporters in nation-wide book tours in 2011, 2012 and 2013. In 2014, she was asked to host and direct The JFK Assassination Conference (held in Dallas/Arlington Nov. 22-23-24), which was financed by numerous donations from supporters.
  Judyth's poetry is collected into two books: When the Clouds Came Flying By (for children) and A Dangerous Thing to Do (available on Kindle) She was co-author of a three-act play [Castles in the Sky, with John MacLean] for the Texas regional LDS Sesquicentennial. She also composes music. In 1976, Judyth's name was one of those placed on the Bicentennial Monument in Stafford, TX for civic service. Her oil and mixed-media paintings, logos and lithographs sell worldwide.

 Judyth was married to Robert A. Baker, III in Mobile, Alabama in 1963. They had five children between 1968-1978: Baker says David Ferrie "warned me not to speak of what I knew, if I wished to stay alive. I was told to be 'a vanilla girl.'" She thus remained silent for 35 years. Then, when Baker's last child left home Dec. 26, 1998. she began writing a series of letters for her son to publish. "I felt guilty," she says, "after seeing the film 'JFK.' I had promised Lee I would tell his children the truth about him. I had to do it." Since then, Judyth has continued to gain support as researchers meet her and familiarize themselves with her account. Today, Judyth lives in various countries overseas. "I regret that I haven't been able to be a grandma and great-grandma," she says. "Some of my family has not forgiven me for speaking out." Judyth is currently working on three more books - one about Lee Harvey Oswald's writings (Tentative Title: The Mind of Lee Harvey Oswald --Trine Day, 2015) one about her close friend, Lt. Col. Dan Marvin [a green Beret who worked as an assassin for the CIA] and a third book about social systems and linguistics.  "I hope to also find time to get some novels and short stories published more widely, too, God willing!" she says. "But first, Lee Oswald's name must be cleared, and we must wake up the public to demand a real cure for cancer that doesn't involve expensive --and often useless-- chemotherapy." Judyth can be contacted on Facebook at "Judyth Baker" or by writing Trine Day Publishers. 
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  • Marty EichlerThomas Yates and 19 others like this.
  • Sunny Paul thank God you didn't stop doing things cause other girls where discouraged from doing them like putting together a radio ect. & also , that you had some heavy duty mentors!
  • Paige Henderson I loved the part in your book that described the development of RPMI media. I've used a heck of a lot of that during my years in the lab.
  • Douglas Neslund I have a question for you Judyth. Did you ever come into contact with an Army program called Operation Whitecoat in Bethesda?
  • Anita Thompson Monroe I think that this short biography is an excellent introduction to you and your work. I"m sharing.
  • Judyth Baker I DOUBT, DOUGLAS, IF THOSE INVOLVED IN VARIOUS OPERATIONS OR PROGRAMS WOULD BE TOLD THE NAME OF THE PROGRAM. LEE DID DISCOVER THE NAME OF THE OPERATION TO KILL JFK ('THE BIG EVENT')....THOUGH IT SURELY HAD ANOTHER NAME AND THIIS ONE WAS FOR CONVENIENCE ONLY. WE BELIEVED WE WERE IN AN OPERATION THAT USED CHESS PIECES... IF THAT IS ANY HELP. BUT THERE WERE OTHER PROGRAMS AND OPERATIONS GOING ON...COMPLEXITIES HARD TO SORT OUT.
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The Height of Lee Harvey Oswald debate

Danny Vasquez put this up, but I want you to notice something. It says that Lee Harvey Oswald was 71 inches. But, the Oswald who was arrested in Dallas was 69 inches. In fact, when he was arrested in New Orleans, the police put him on a height ledger which said 5'9" and they took a picture which we have. So, the Oswald of fame was definitely 69 inches. 

And, this form also says that he was 150 pounds, and his age at the time was 18. Well, the Oswald of fame was never that heavy. In New Orleans, he was 140 pounds, and he was round in the face then. In Dallas, he was 131 pounds. There is no reason to think that he was 150 pounds when he was 18 years old.

But, even if you just go by the height, the Oswald of fame could not possibly have been that tall.   Reporter Ralph Clinque


Monday 24 November 2014

Judyth Baker reports Evidence on Lee Harvey Oswald


Ralph Cinque, who runs the OIC--the Oswald Innocence Campaign--is telling his group that I have no witnesses and no evidence except for 'Reily.' Here is my reply, for all who might be influenced by this fiction: YOU SAY I HAVE NO WITNESSES? Anna Lewis is not a witness? She's on YOUTUBE: see her HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyN37x3OfHs. Mac McCullough, the Charles Thomas family, are not witnesses? Though it was Clay Shaw who met with Lee, according to Vernon Bundy, Andrej' s message is far more accurate than yours, Besides the witnesses, ask yourself who gave the leads that allowed researchers to learn that Lee worked with Customs (I did). When I stated AShaw and Ochsner worked together in 1999, nobody believed me--it is now common knowledge. Ask why I would defend an accused assassin rather than use my witnesses as proof, and then say Lee killed Kennedy...instead I defend him. As for what Lee Oswald told marina, we have ONLY her word for that. The same woman who told the WC that Lee was going to shoot Nixon--even the WC knew that was a lie. The same woman who last year said if she spoke out, she was afraid the Secret service would kill her. The same woman who found lee's wedding ring sitting on the dresser the next morning. The lie that he then decided to kill JFK based on his anger at her refusal to live with him is obvious when you realize that the WC also claimed lee had created a sack to carry the rifle into the TSBD--which was at least no later than the day before. Even Ruth Paine saw nothing but a harmony between the two that night. What do you say about the FBI searching the lockers in Laredo? Lee left his clothes there because he had been told he would be able to return to Mexico by Christmas. What about the two reports that Lee oswald was obtaining information about quickie divorces along the border towns there? What about Lee placing "Catholic" on his Mexican Tourist Visa application, when Castro was executing nuns and priests? he had been raised Lutheran. How did I know all about Charles Thimas, who got Lee's passport in 24 hours--who I was able to describe to his family in total detail, including his working at the border and Crystal Beach--after which the relatives showed me a photo taken of Thomas just when I said he was there? How about the fact that in the book Marina and lee, it says Lee wept when he said goodbye to Marina on his way to Mexico City, because he and she knew they would never see each other again? Lee told her he was going to go to Cuba. And stay there, when actually, we were going to marry there. How did I know about the gray book of Pushkin's poems in Russian that Lee read to me, that even Mary Ferrel insisted meant I had to have known Lee Oswald, since she and her husband Buck had visited Ruth Paine, who had brought forth that book--one the police missed--that once belonged to lee? I told her all about that book in the presence of two witnesses who are still alive, and she was astonished. Why would i have saved all the original check stubs--how is it that researchers entered the apartment on 1032 and verified that its interior was almost exactly the same as in 1963, even to the overhead lights still in the same place? Who else can explain the discrepancies in his Retail Credit background report? Who can explain what happened in Clinton--and, by the way, Mary Morgan recently confirmed that I had to have been the woman in the car when Lee drive me out there. How did I know about the abort team when it had never been published before, so that Jim Marrs knew I had known Lee oswald? Why did Gerry hemming, after I told him personal things about his life that Lee told me, that NOBODY KNEW, send Nigel Turner to film me for The Men Who Killed Kennedy? Why do I fight for Lee's exoneration ? How is it that Edward T. Haslam discovered who i was, all the special training I had, and since then, has constantly come up with new evidence supporting my involvement with Lee, Dr. Sherman and David Ferrie? For example, the date that Lee and i drove up to Jackson, that same day was the 'end' of the project --we would have to wait for the prisoner to die....Lee stopped all demonstrations.... I returned to Florida... Mary Sherman flew the same day to London and her apartment was stripped of all evidence that same night through a 'burglary' that took mainly medical equipment. Nopody even knew Lee worked for Standard Coffee --it slipped past them--until I produced the check stub showing we were hired there together the same day, were there a week, and then transferred together to Reily. The Green Glass is a treasure in our family and ever since 1980, dozens of people in Houstion knew that Lee had been my friend, that we had worked together and rode the streetcars and buses together. You will not find a better explanation of WHY Clay Shaw and David ferrie could NOT leave those staring eyes of all those Clinton witnesses--because they were tied down waiting for a payphone call, to join the convoy. Lee did not have proper ID to get registered--nor was Shaw or a Cadillac needed to get Lee to Clinton. And people working for mental hospitals are not crazy, so the idea he was to work there to frame him as 'crazy' is quite silly. Lee pretended to want a job there as an excuse to be able to return, when he had to drive me there only 72 hours later, this time in an old car. There is much more that now connects the dots. Because i was there. God bless those who are humble enough to change their minds when confronted with the truth. I have lost my career, my health, a lot of my eyesight over this, and some of my children will not speak to me over this. Do you think that has been easy to live with, to speak out, with such consequences? It takes a long time for me to write this without caps, hard to see, please forgive any typos. It's easy to attack me because I defend Lee. But love overcomes all things. Thank you for this opportunity to respond. JVB.
Judyth Baker She died recently.... she allowed this video of her to be spread far and wide... even though she lost her job for a year and a half and was also threatened that her 20 year old son who had half his brain removed due to cancer (and was therefore extremely handicapped) would be taken from her;;...she told Martin Shackelford WHO made the threats and pushed her to recant--but she refused to cave in....this same person who threatened Anna attacks me all the time to this very day...THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT I DID FIND WITNESSES, THANK GOD, STILL ALIVE AND ABLE TO BE RECORDED FOR HISTORY.
Video interview with Anna Lewis Anna Lewis knew Lee Harvey Oswald and Judyth Baker in New Orleans. http://jfkmurdersolved.com/buy.htm This is the previously ...







Judyth Baker She died recently.... she allowed this video of her to be spread far and wide... even though she lost her job for a year and a half and was also threatened that her 20 year old son who had half his brain removed due to cancer (and was therefore extremely handicapped) would be taken from her;;...she told Martin Shackelford WHO made the threats and pushed her to recant--but she refused to cave in....this same person who threatened Anna attacks me all the time to this very day...THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT I DID FIND WITNESSES, THANK GOD, STILL ALIVE AND ABLE TO BE RECORDED FOR HISTORY.

Saturday 22 November 2014

A look alike Lee Harvey Oswald?


Aaron Pressman reports  A look alike Lee Harvey Oswald?
Air Force Sergeant Robert Vinson was an accidental witness to an Oswald double’s secret flight out of Dallas on the day of the shooting. Vinson was upset that despite his diligent work for NORAD (North American Air Defense Command) at Ent Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, he hadn’t been rewarded with a promotion, so he took a spontaneous flight to Washington DC on November 20, 1963, to demand an answer from his superiors.
On November 21, Sergeant Vinson met with a Colonel Chapman in the basement of the US Capitol about his promotion. During their meeting, Vinson remembered Col. Chapman, a liaison officer between Congress and the Pentagon, taking a call and telling the person on the other line that he “would highly recommend the president not go to Dallas, Texas, on Friday because there had been something reported.” After Chapman finished the call, he assured Vinson his promotion would be considered.
On the morning of November 22, Vinson went to Andrews Air Force Base with the intent of coming back home to Colorado Springs by nightfall. He gave an airman at the check-in counter his name and serial number, asking to be alerted when the next plane bound for the area would be departing, “if anything should come through that you don’t have a notice on.” Roughly 15 minutes later, Vinson was paged to the hangar, where he boarded a C54 plane that bore no markings or serial numbers other than a strange brown logo on its tail, of an egg-shaped earth crisscrossed with grid lines.
After boarding the empty plane, Vinson noticed two men in olive drab overalls board the plane and close the cockpit door without even saying a word to Vinson. Sergeant Vinson found it odd that he wasn’t asked to sign a flight manifest, as he had always done when riding Air Force planes. A little after the C54 took off, an unemotional voice announced over the plane’s intercom system, “The president was shot at 12:29.”
The C54 headed due South, and after another few hours, Vinson watched the Dallas skyline approach through the window around roughly 3:30 Central. Once the C54 landed in Dallas, the pilot emerged from the cockpit and opened the passenger door, whereupon two men in white construction overalls quickly boarded, after running there from a Jeep that was already backing away from the site. Sgt. Vinson recalled one of the men was between 6' and 6'1", looked Cuban, and weighed between 180 and 190 pounds. A shorter Caucasian man also boarded, whom Vinson estimated was between 5'7" and 5'9" and weighed between 150 and 160 pounds. The plane took off and headed West without anyone else on the plane saying a word to Vinson. Sgt. Vinson figured the silence of the crew was part of the mission the crew was on, and kept quiet during the flight.
When the plane landed again around sunset, Vinson approached a guard shack and asked an air policeman where he was. The AP told him he was at the Roswell Air Force Base in New Mexico. Vinson was trying to get downtown so he could take a bus back home, but the AP informed him the base was locked down and nobody could get in or out. Vinson thought this was especially strange, given that his plane had just landed with no interference.
By November 23, Robert Vinson was back home with his wife Roberta, watching the news on the assassination that evening, after telling her about his odd flight home. When Lee Harvey Oswald’s face appeared on the news, Robert said, “That guy looks just like the little guy who was on the airplane.”
“Are you nuts?” Roberta asked. “It couldn’t be him. He’s in jail.”
“I swear that’s the little guy who got on the plane,” Vinson insisted.
“Well, keep quiet about it,” Roberta said.
After Jack Ruby murdered Oswald, Vinson vowed to keep quiet about what he saw. But he had still given his name and serial number to the airman at the Andrews Air Force Base check-in counter, and by Spring of 1964, when Vinson had been promoted to technical sergeant, federal authorities had tracked him down. Neighbors told the Vinson family that the FBI was interviewing residents about them, specifically about the Vinsons’ conversation topics in recent months. Vinson’s commanding officer made him sign a secrecy statement, and Roberta, for the first time as an Air Force wife, had to fill out a personal history form and sign an additional secrecy statement.
In November of 1964, Vinson was ordered to go to Washington and call a number for further instructions upon landing. After making the call, Vinson was told he would be spending the better part of a week at CIA headquarters in Langley, where he would soon undergo multiple physical and psychological tests. At the end of the fifth day, Vinson was interviewed by a semi-circle of men shrouded in darkness, who offered Vinson a job with the CIA. When Vinson refused, they offered him lucrative bribes, which he also declined. Vinson went back home to Colorado Springs, until he was contacted again three months later.
This time, the Air Force had Vinson report to a telephone number after landing in Las Vegas. Vinson learned the Air Force had assigned him to the CIA’s top-secret Blackbird SR 71 spy plane in the Nellis Mountains some 40 miles Northwest of Las Vegas. The base was renamed Site 51 and focused on experimental aircraft resembling saucers. Vinson later learned that similar flying saucer experiments were being conducted at the Roswell Air Force Base where the C54 had landed on the day of Kennedy’s assassination. Local lore about aliens was seen as convenient cover for the CIA’s top-secret projects.
Robert Vinson spent the last year and a half of his Air Force enlistment as the administrative supervisor for base supply at Site 51. The CIA supplemented Vinson’s Air Force income with monthly cash payments, which both Vinson and his wife suspected was the agency buying their silence about what Sgt. Vinson saw when he boarded the wrong plane on November 22, 1963. When Vinson asked an Air Force sergeant at Site 51 about the origin of a rust-colored egg-shaped Earth logo on the tail of a C54 landing at Site 51, the sergeant said, “CIA.”
Vinson kept quiet for 20 years as he and his wife quietly lived and worked in Wichita, Kansas. In 1976, Robert Vinson told a lawyer friend about the secret he had been keeping, who then told Vinson, “Don’t tell a soul. For your own safety.” Vinson followed his friend’s advice until the passage of the JFK Records Act in 1992, and subsequently went on Wichita’s KAKE-TV Channel 10 to tell the story to Larry Hatteberg. His story was so popular with viewers that the interview was re-broadcasted several more times. Vinson’s story of watching the CIA fly an Oswald double out of Dallas and the subsequent purchasing of his silence and complicity has since been chronicled in the book “Flight From Dallas” by Wichita civil liberties attorney James Johnston and journalist Jon Roe.
The testimonies of (later) Dallas mayor Wes Wise, auto mechanic T.F. White, concession stand operator Butch Burroughs, and hobby shop owner Bernard Haire, along with the story of Sergeant Robert Vinson all prove the sightings of more than one “Oswald” seen in different places at the same time. This is the biggest indicator of the CIA forcing a particular narrative around a particular person, inadvertently drawing more attention to themselves as a result.
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This story first ran in 1993 when retired Air Force Sargent Robert Vinson contacted me with a story...
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